Schneier vs. Brin

[dsummersminet at comcast.net]

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From: Julia Thompson degges at chiba.3jane.net
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:47:55 -0500 (CDT)
To: brin-l at mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Schneier vs. Brin




On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, dsummersminet at comcast.net wrote:

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> From: Julia Thompson degges at chiba.3jane.net
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:34:42 -0500 (CDT)
> To: brin-l at mccmedia.com
> Subject: Re: Schneier vs. Brin
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>>> In Texas, if you're an adult, you cannot be outside your residence
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>>> an ID.
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>> On your property, I should have said.
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> How sure are you of this Julia?  I have two reasons to question this.
> First, Google didn't give me any hits on this...just side hits on ID
> requirements for beer, etc.  Second, my daughter Neli (one of my two
> Zambian daughters) was in a car which was pulled over for DWB in the
> Woodlands.  The people in the care were asked why they were in the
> Woodlands.  Neli said "I live here."  She was asked for ID and she said "I
> don't need ID, I'm not driving."  The matter was dropped.
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>> Given that they were pulled over for DWB, if she was legally required to
>> carry ID at all times, wouldn't they have mentioned that at the time.
>> Heck, a constible who pulls folks over for DWB is looking for someone to
>> arrest in my book.
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> Dan M.

>I've heard from black men that if they're walking out on the road in East 
>Texas, they damn well better have ID on them, and failure to produce ID 
>will get you in some trouble.

Ah, that makes sense then.  There is no law against it, just like there is
no law against black people driving.  But, an officer has discretion
concerning "suspicious behavior" and the Supreme Court has said that an
officer can ask for an ID.  So, even though its not a law, its common sense
for people with certain ethnic backgrounds to carry IDs.  You or I can jog
in our neighborhood without them.  Heck, Neli can jog here, because the
police knows that she could very well be related to someone who could raise
holy hell.  But, a black man on an E Texas road, yea....I'll believe that.

Dan M.

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