Schneier vs. Brin

[Julia Thompson]

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, dsummersminet at comcast.net wrote:

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> From: Julia Thompson degges at chiba.3jane.net
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:47:55 -0500 (CDT)
> To: brin-l at mccmedia.com
> Subject: Re: Schneier vs. Brin
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> On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, dsummersminet at comcast.net wrote:
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>> From: Julia Thompson degges at chiba.3jane.net
>> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:34:42 -0500 (CDT)
>> To: brin-l at mccmedia.com
>> Subject: Re: Schneier vs. Brin
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>>>> In Texas, if you're an adult, you cannot be outside your residence
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>>>> an ID.
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>>> On your property, I should have said.
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>> How sure are you of this Julia?  I have two reasons to question this.
>> First, Google didn't give me any hits on this...just side hits on ID
>> requirements for beer, etc.  Second, my daughter Neli (one of my two
>> Zambian daughters) was in a car which was pulled over for DWB in the
>> Woodlands.  The people in the care were asked why they were in the
>> Woodlands.  Neli said "I live here."  She was asked for ID and she said "I
>> don't need ID, I'm not driving."  The matter was dropped.
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>>> Given that they were pulled over for DWB, if she was legally required to
>>> carry ID at all times, wouldn't they have mentioned that at the time.
>>> Heck, a constible who pulls folks over for DWB is looking for someone to
>>> arrest in my book.
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>> Dan M.
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>> I've heard from black men that if they're walking out on the road in East
>> Texas, they damn well better have ID on them, and failure to produce ID
>> will get you in some trouble.
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> Ah, that makes sense then.  There is no law against it, just like there is
> no law against black people driving.  But, an officer has discretion
> concerning "suspicious behavior" and the Supreme Court has said that an
> officer can ask for an ID.  So, even though its not a law, its common sense
> for people with certain ethnic backgrounds to carry IDs.  You or I can jog
> in our neighborhood without them.  Heck, Neli can jog here, because the
> police knows that she could very well be related to someone who could raise
> holy hell.  But, a black man on an E Texas road, yea....I'll believe that.
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> Dan M.

And, better safe than sorry -- if I'm in someone else's car and there's a 
major crash, better for me to have ID on me so they have an easier time 
figuring out who I am.

(Also, if you're an adult, you can't get into an elementary school around 
here without a driver's license.  They scan it, get info from a 
database, and print up a "visitor" sticker that has the picture from your 
license.)

 	Julia